Goddammit I should beat you for adding anything else to my writing platter.
Hey! We've been throwing that term around with no good clue about its cultural context for years and lo, someone hops out of the tall grass who can actually speak to it from both sides so, y'know, "What can the gods offer me?". ;)
Besides, it's not "now", it's "by and by". The book in the trance series that will deal with having gods in is a bit down the road yet; the one that she has the contract for covers "first, learn to breathe" and goes to "running amok in the Otherworld with your posse".
Therefore, hey, you have years. ;)
Thing is, it's expressed through practice rather than anything specifically lore-based,
While that's true, there are citations amongst the sagas, which would obviously have to be waved and thumped for this purpose. Actually, the one that springs fastest to mind is the same one we thump when we talk about possessory stuff...
then people start pointing fingers about how "Heathen" thou is or thou is not.
You know, I used to feel very hurt at accusations like that, and then I realised that you know? My kindred's been in the business for twenty years, so step back, bitch (them, not you!). :>
Bhakti as a uniquely Hindu phenomena is dependant on everything else Hindu from social structure to mysticism; while there are a great many paralells in any mystical devotional tradition, with lots of tools and toys being the same, there's enough difference that it'd be impossible to look for "Heathen bhakti" because there won't be any. There is Heathen devotional practice, and that's what I'm after. I suppose I can contrast the two devotional traditions; that'd make interesting reading I think.
Compare, contrast, using your own personal examples, and it could then be interleaved with other personal examples. Devotional practice has a place in heathenry--it even has a lore-justified place, and I aims to ensure it's claimed properly.
Think, not of the slings and arrows to be cast at you, emberleo, or I--'cos we'll catch a few--but how someone else coming fresh off "ow fuck Freyr grabbed me NOW WHAT?" in five, ten, or twenty years would see it and know they're not alone.
But, again, you have a lot lead time on this--we're not on the Raven Kaldera Hella-imposed schedule of "write everything and have had it published yesterday and WHY AREN'T YOU DONE?" that I hear about from time to time...
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Hey! We've been throwing that term around with no good clue about its cultural context for years and lo, someone hops out of the tall grass who can actually speak to it from both sides so, y'know, "What can the gods offer me?". ;)
Besides, it's not "now", it's "by and by". The book in the trance series that will deal with having gods in is a bit down the road yet; the one that she has the contract for covers "first, learn to breathe" and goes to "running amok in the Otherworld with your posse".
Therefore, hey, you have years. ;)
Thing is, it's expressed through practice rather than anything specifically lore-based,
While that's true, there are citations amongst the sagas, which would obviously have to be waved and thumped for this purpose. Actually, the one that springs fastest to mind is the same one we thump when we talk about possessory stuff...
then people start pointing fingers about how "Heathen" thou is or thou is not.
You know, I used to feel very hurt at accusations like that, and then I realised that you know? My kindred's been in the business for twenty years, so step back, bitch (them, not you!). :>
Bhakti as a uniquely Hindu phenomena is dependant on everything else Hindu from social structure to mysticism; while there are a great many paralells in any mystical devotional tradition, with lots of tools and toys being the same, there's enough difference that it'd be impossible to look for "Heathen bhakti" because there won't be any. There is Heathen devotional practice, and that's what I'm after. I suppose I can contrast the two devotional traditions; that'd make interesting reading I think.
Compare, contrast, using your own personal examples, and it could then be interleaved with other personal examples. Devotional practice has a place in heathenry--it even has a lore-justified place, and I aims to ensure it's claimed properly.
Think, not of the slings and arrows to be cast at you,
But, again, you have a lot lead time on this--we're not on the Raven Kaldera Hella-imposed schedule of "write everything and have had it published yesterday and WHY AREN'T YOU DONE?" that I hear about from time to time...
-- Lorrie